Showing posts with label Review Warnings. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Review Warnings. Show all posts

Thursday, August 08, 2013

Silence the Warnings

If you do something Revit doesn't like it will generate a warning that appears in the bottom right of the Revit interface. Those are warnings you can choose to ignore but they are stored in the Review Warnings dialog to review later. It's a good idea to remember to resolve as many as you can.

If you also get a warning sound when these appear and you find it annoying, you can silence them if you click the sneaky little "speaker" icon that appears in the warning dialog.


My son showed me this meme as I was writing this post, sublime timing? I think so...


Friday, March 15, 2013

Show Me Wish

Revit offers us the opportunity to "Show" an element when we review warnings, use the Select by ID and fairly often when an error message is generated and we expand the warning.



Choosing Show will often generate a warning that there is no good view to show it in and ask us if we really want to let Revit hunt for a view.



I'd like to be able to specify which kind of views to hunt through before it does its magic. For example I know I want to find a ceiling so don't bother showing me 3D, elevation or section views if I'm really hoping to see just ceiling plan views. Perhaps a new Zoom option: Zoom to Selected that goes to the current element in the view, like Revit will do in a 3D view using the view cube.

Let me help Revit focus on what I'm interested in or think I need. I occasionally have a clue...

Tuesday, March 05, 2013

These are not the Warnings You are Looking For

Funny message offered in the Review Warnings dialog.


I had previously selected all the room tags in the model (select all instances in entire project) and then chose the option to Move to Room to fix Revit's complaint regarding some of them. The message displayed changed to the above. Nice that it is confirming there are now no more warnings but I find it amusing that it says "Warning...there aren't any warnings, Warning". Proceed with caution.

Thursday, January 27, 2011

Review Warnings

I wrote the following at AUGI the other day:

First a silly message from the Management

  • Procedure Item: Review Warnings
  • Steps: Review and FIX them!!
  • Thank you, the mgmt!

More seriously, do focus on warnings that:

  • Affect calculations, rooms/areas & wall/boundary errors
  • Duplication (multiple elements in the same place)
  • Affect documentation - Type Marks/Marks/tagging accuracy

A team needs to know they exist and why they are there. The quantity of them varies wildly as a design evolves. If the team is aware and tracking them then they don't turn into thousands of errors that negatively affect the project.

Tuesday, June 08, 2010

Dept. of Subtle - You Didn't Ask!

Ever since it became possible to initiate editing a family from within the project Revit has stopped us to ask if we are really sure we want to open the file for editing.

No more!

Revit 2011 designers and developers united in an effort to cut one more warning dialog from their inventory! Sad thing is that I'm so used to getting asked that I'm still occasionally starting to tell students to "click Yes" to accept the second guessing dialog. Happened again today...

I propose a new dialog in its place, something like this?


Thanks for the little stuff!

Wednesday, May 05, 2010

Dept. of Moved Cheese - Warnings

With Revit 2010 I found myself repeatedly clicking the Manage ribbon when I wanted to review Warnings. No sooner would I click on it than I would remember that it isn't there it is on the Modify ribbon tab, nuts!!


It should be on the Manage ribbon!!!

In 2011 it IS! Yes!! Trouble is that I'm now clicking on Modify first, oh well. It's where I felt it should be instinctively, just have to listen to my instincts now.


By the way, notice they also moved the selection features; Select by ID and IDs of Selection. Measure is still on the Modify ribbon tab though.

Friday, September 18, 2009

Duplicate Mark Values

This warning means what it says, you have two elements that have the same mark value. Why are they sharing the same value? It's pretty simple really when a project is using worksets. We each work in our own local files and each file is a copy of the central file.

Let's take a classic example, Doors. I add doors, you add doors. In my file and your file the next door number is, let's pick 108. I added a door and Revit thinks it is door 109. You add a door and Revit thinks it is door 109. No problem until you Synchronize with Central (SWC) (there see I remembered the new language). When the central file receives my data first, no worries. When you SWC that's when the error occurs, so it IS your fault! Sort of...guilt by association.

The next number is 109 and we are both correct except that we are briefly isolated by our Local Files. No isolation after the SWC and the error(s) is/are trapped. The central file does not oversee the delivery of unique Mark values, maybe it should? It only reacts to work done in our local files.

Some of these errors, like our doors, get resolved as the design progresses. A door number gets a better value as soon as room numbering is sorted out because we endeavor to define the door number then. Others don't get resolved naturally because we don't usually itemize them, but Revit does.

An example of this is Air Terminals in Revit MEP. They get tagged but not usually by a unique mark value like a door. We could but it doesn't happen in practice very often. Instead they are usually tagged by Type, like windows are often tagged by architects. Speaking of windows, they suffer from this issue too. The same scenario exists for these yet there is no natural process to resolve the mark values other than to spend time fixing them.

In this instance, and other similar items, Revit creates extra work for us because it is necessary to minimize warnings in order to ensure the best performance while working on our projects. It might be worthwhile to have a way to define which elements Revit should incrementally assign a Mark Value. For example, hypothetically, we could tell Revit to ignore Air Terminals via Mechanical Settings. This would eliminate a lot of warnings when several people are building their model simultaneously.

In the meantime we need a hero API programmer to provide a free application (or reasonably inexpensive) to renumber all items of a user selected category so they all have unique Mark values again. Since we don't care what their real Mark value is the application can be merciless and simply renumber them all starting with 1.

[Added because of a comment, thanks!]
I dismissed the Element Positioning tool in the past because it didn't seem to work properly for me, I've revised my opinion today, user clumsiness. This tool is part of the Extensions for Revit, available via Autodesk Subscription only. There are versions for each Revit flavor. Revit Structure (RST) has the fullest collection of tools because they were originally written for RST and later the ones that would be useful for RAC and RME were made available. I decided to make another VIDEO to explain how it works. You can listen and watch here too.



Sunday, October 12, 2008

Dept. of Reviteristics - The Solution is Delete!!

Whenever you get a warning message or use Review Warnings have you noticed that the solution Revit seems to think is the correct choice for practically every situation is to DELETE the offending element. It is sort of an "off with his head" reaction isn't it?? Is your wall giving you problems...DELETE IT! That's what I do and I feel much better! It is the "duct tape" solution in Revit...101 uses!

I think it would be wonderful if...since Revit caught a problem in the first place...the warnings were more meaningful, in "plain English" and offered us some more useful possibilities in addition to or other than DELETE!

Am I unanimous in this?

Wednesday, June 18, 2008

Reviewing Warnings

A subtle improvement to this feature exists in the latest release. When you select an element which has a warning associated with it an Options Bar button appears which permits the user to see the warning.


This is a welcome improvement to be sure.

We can also export the warnings to an external file. This is something I posted about in the past and I'm grateful that it has been added.


Phil Read has a blog finally and he recently posted a succinct summary of issues and ideas related to making the warnings that Revit stores in response to a teams work...work better. His ideas are well written and provide insight into the depth of his experience working with many firms over the years. No surprise honestly. Naturally it is easy to agree with his assertions because they make sense and match with most if not all user's experience.

Tuesday, July 31, 2007

Overlapping Lines - Review Warnings

You've just attempted to finish the sketch of a stair, floor, roof, ceiling etc. and you are staring at the dreaded "can't finish sketch". It might not be obvious but you can use the Tools menu > Review Warnings to track down the trouble maker(s). You can also pan the view with the scroll bars to make is easier to see the whole sketch as well as using the right click menu viewing options. This way you don't have to resort to the delete...undo...delete...undo...cycle to find the troublemaker(s).

Happy Reviewing...

Thursday, June 07, 2007

Review Warnings - Auditing that list

In a conversation with Lee Miller, Firmwide BIM Implementer for HOK, we were discussing the inability to export the warnings that Revit will store as they occur. I suggested we take a look at SnagIT's ability to capture information in dialogs by scrolling through the entire contents of the dialog's window. We were pleased to find that it works. You get a capture of the text and you can then edit it in word or drop it in excel and then review the list and track down the errors without staying in the Review Warnings dialog and keep re-opening it too. Thought I'd pass it along. SnagIT has really earned its keep with me.

Note to Revit development team:

  • Need to provide an export of Reviewable Warnings to text format.
  • I think the dialog should stay open when you resolve a warning instead of closing the dialog and forcing us to re-open it or at least an option to make the dialog persistent.
  • There should be Expand All and Collapse All buttons

Window's Keyboard shortcuts will provide the expand/contract behavior if you can remember them along with all the other shortcuts you may try to remember.

NUM LOCK+ASTERISK on numeric keypad (*)
Display all subfolders under the selected folder.

NUM LOCK+PLUS SIGN on numeric keypad (+)
Display the contents of the selected folder.

NUM LOCK+MINUS SIGN on numeric keypad (-)
Collapse the selected folder.

Cheers!