Showing posts with label Manufacturers. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Manufacturers. Show all posts

Tuesday, November 22, 2011

Content Critique

Content is King! The right content, good content, smart content...

How the content is to be judged is subjective, evaluated against personal criteria, as well as objective. It doesn't take a lot of effort to find something to complain about when you use content created by others. It isn't even all that hard to return to our own content a little later and have a different opinion about how well we made it. Ever evolving, improving...hopefully.

I had the occasion recently to poke and prod some families shared via Autodesk Seek. The first example is from Belden, one of their equipment management products, this image is a 3D view at 1/8" = 1'-0" scale.


Another example is from Siemon, one of their punch down patch panels, also in a 3D view at 1/8" = 1'-0" scale. This is a bit blobby eh?


What you see in these images are what you see in the project environment, assuming a particular scale as mentioned before. There is a heck of a lot of detail in each of the families. The rack weighs in at 796 KB and the patch panel weighs in at 2.056 MB.

Taking a closer look at the punch down patch panel we find this, I had to use thin lines to see the detail.


The back side has the punch down blocks modelled too as well as sheet metal bends and kerfs. There are even small parts on the inside of the panel which nobody will ever be able to see in a Revit view.


Another family I had a closer look at is one of the Siemon Wire Management racks which weighs in at 2.9 MB.


It is nice looking but there are elements that have been modelled that nobody can see in a Revit project. Cutting a section through the cabinet will not yield the extra modeling effort that was put in. A simple rectangular shape would yield sufficient results in nearly all views except for a close up photoreal rendering perhaps.


These last two families don't take advantage of Revit's Detail Levels or Visibility options to manage the complexity or detail they contain. What's more troubling about these is that they are posted on Seek, suggesting that they are ideal or represent content that others should emulate. The wire management rack is the most "over the top".

I've hidden a hundred or more elements (solids/voids) to show this stuff.


Nearly everything you can see in that image is hidden behind something (except for the door handle) which means in a Revit project that nobody can ever see it because the category (Electrical Fixtures) doesn't have a cut representation. In a few cases I've run across data related equipment that have been assigned to the category Specialty Equipment, which doesn't even show up in Revit MEP views ordinarily (not included among the MEP categories listed in V/G, without showing all categories).

Where am I headed with this critique? It's still the wild west folks. Just downloading content from Seek is no guarantee that you won't have to spend some time tweaking or in the case of the wire management rack or punch down patch panel, abandoning them to create something simpler.

Tuesday, January 18, 2011

Marvin Window Content Updated

Received an email this morning letting me know that Marvin Windows has update their Revit content, they wrote:

We are happy to inform you that we have posted about 41 different Revit families to our Marvin Revit Page.


We want to thank those of you who helped us test these families and for spending the time to write and tell us your comments. We were able to incorporate many of your requests in our families. We hope these families will be an asset to you. Take care and please let us know if you have any comments, complaints or questions.

Friday, August 21, 2009

Simpson Content Update

I have been contacted by Ed again to let me know that he has encountered issues with the content and he is getting similar reports from others. They haven't been able to get them to work in Revit. A couple of comments posted here and in a thread at AUGI suggest that this first release might better have been termed "Alpha". Ed informs me that he's been told that the folks at Simpson are working on it. I'm sure they'll get the situation sorted out.

The primary objections shared with me so far is modelling excessively and that users need detail component versions of these families as much or more than 3D versions. This is what I was alluding to in my comment about level of detail in the previous POST.

Tuesday, August 18, 2009

Simpson - Revit Content Available

Ed Tallmadge with Kelar Pacific let me know that this was available today. Thanks Ed!

From the Simpson site (snip):

...At the request of our customers, Simpson Strong-Tie is creating drawings for our product offerings that work with Autodesk® Revit® software. You can download the models we currently have available, grouped into "families", from the links on the right... Here's a screen capture of their site:


This level of detail might be a bit extreme on a large project but used intelligently could be a nice addition to your projects. Be sure to note their willingness to put certain content at the head of the line if something you need isn't available yet. Just let them know.