Showing posts with label Revit Server. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Revit Server. Show all posts

Thursday, February 16, 2012

Clarity for Revit Server

Joe wrote a post on the IMAGINiT blog last night regarding a new product that I first heard rumors about at Autodesk University 2011. It says in the post that there will be a demo at BIM Spectrum today (It's a virtual event so you can attend - 10:30 AM - 5:00 PM EST).

Here's the text of the post...


Clarity for Autodesk Revit Server
Well, it's out now... what started as an idea and grew into something that captured all sorts of attention at Autodesk University has now become a real offering from IMAGINiT!

As is mentioned on our Clarity news release:

IMAGINiT Technologies has released IMAGINiT Clarity for Autodesk® Revit® Server. This web-based solution from the same IMAGINiT software development team who created Scan to BIM was built specifically to enhance the Autodesk Revit Server platform. IMAGINiT Clarity allows team members and external partners to share one centrally located BIM model securely from multiple locations.

It's first public presentation will be at BIM Spectrum tomorrow, and more information from our news release can be found for your viewing pleasure here

The full product page with even more information can be found here


This is the video embedded on their site. I heard nice things about it at AU...looking forward to learning more about it.


Monday, April 25, 2011

Revit Server - Heading Off Road

If you are curious about Revit Server and using less server like hardware/software, David just posted the results of his experience doing exactly that. He's been able to get it up and running on extra equipment. Caution though, you'll be stepping outside the "support range" of Autodesk's support crew...


Check out his post now!?!

Thursday, November 18, 2010

Revit Server Insight

Matt Dillon with D|C|Cadd in San Antonio, TX writes for their Building Solutions blog.


He just wrote about their initial experience getting Revit Server up and running on their own network for testing purposes. He promises a whitepaper regarding the process in the near future. If you are heading this direction with Revit Server soon yourself, be sure to watch for more information there.

Added 12/8/10: They've posted their Revit Server Whitepaper now. Yes the first page has some wild characters on it.

Don't forget that there is a Autodesk sponsored/started Revit Server Wiki to provide information and support too.

Thursday, November 04, 2010

Worksharing - Revit Server and Bluestreak

Here's an echo of a post by Steve Bennett, CAD Manager with HMC Architects. His blog is called 2D OR NOT 2D. He shares some insight into the collaboration process using the new Revit Server and Bluestreak. They are in the process of getting it up and running so he's captured some of the dialogs and choices that need to be made as you get started. Hopefully he'll continue with some follow up posts.

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Revit Server

I've been patiently waiting for some real information on this concept since I first heard a little birdie mention it at the end of last year. In my previous post I listed the bullet points I saw during our presentation but I didn't really explain the problem that this feature is intended to solve.

Fundamentally a firm with more than one office is at the mercy of their internet connection between offices when attempting to collaborate on a single project file. The existing methodology for Central and Local files passes too much data back and forth to be practical. As a result many firms have invested in server computer and hardware based WAN acceleration like offered by Riverbed. This technology does improve the situation and in many cases turning an unacceptable situation into a viable one. Revit Server is both a server computer based application and optimization within Revit itself to improve the project file relationship further.

Do you need Riverbed? Maybe. If you already have it you are primed for further improvement. If you don't you could evaluate it (Revit Server) and then decide whether investing in Riverbed is warranted, it may still be beneficial. The bandwidth available between offices is the critical variable.
  • The first hurdle, if your firm doesn't have a server this solution won't help you. Hopefully a firm with more than one office isn't in this situation?
  • The second hurdle, the imminent release is limited to your intranet/domain which rules out collaboration with external project teams that can't be permitted access to your domain. EyeTee talk for allowing other people in other firms to access your project folder(s) from outside your computer network. This rules out multi-firm collaboration unless you can work with EyeTee to provide a common domain for the whole team. Remember this is the first release and they clearly understand the desire to accomplish the broader collaboration between external firms
The user interaction is described well on David Light's blog because he captured images of various dialog boxes. From the user's point of view there isn't much difference. They create a local file just like before but they choose a project from the Revit Server instead. This is exposed via a drop down option on the Collaborate ribbon's Synchronize panel.


On the management side the firm must choose a dedicated server (choose an office location) for Central Files and the Revit Server software is installed on this server. The Revit Server Administrator application provides access to the Central files for each project as well as other maintenance items. If you browse the network using Windows Explorer it won't see the Central Files on Revit Server. They will only be accessible via the Revit Server Administrator application.

I wrote earlier about Globalscape's WAFS application and to me they seem quite similar. The most notable difference is that a company with active Autodesk subscription for Revit gets Revit Server for the subscription fee (or if you prefer to think of it as "free"...no additional money). Globalscape's solution will cost about 3K for each agent software initially with a yearly subscription fee thereafter. You'd need two agents to accomplish sharing between two offices, more agents for more offices naturally.

Robert Manna and David Light both shared network charts that explain the relationship between computers. They both have had the benefit of using the technology during early testing. I mentioned earlier that Robert is conducting an AU Virtual session about their implementation on an ongoing project.


Part of the technology includes a reworking of the user permissions that used to be collected into individual files (eperms). A new database is now used to manage user borrowing to provide a more robust monitoring and control system.

Back to workflow, all changes made to your local file are saved to a central file that is on a server located in the same office as your local. The changes to this central file are passed to the central file that exists on Revit Server. Changes made by others are also passed to Revit Server and these changes are passed to each other's local files via the Central files that are on their own office's servers. During the presentation yesterday it was stated that 100 milliseconds seems to be the threshold at which synchronization delays are perceived by a user so that is the threshold they are seeking to avoid, faster not slower than 100ms.

Some observations:

  • Language is going to be a difficult transition, the word server, central and local all get used in an overlapping manner. For example, I'm saving my local file, it synchronizes with the "local" server which synchronizes with changes at the Revit Server installed on the master project server.
  • If your firm has servers but doesn't have dedicated EyeTee staff this may seem "hard".
  • The minimum requirements (see previous post) may deter your EyeTee staff if they are not ready to deal with the implications of deploying a server operating system that is newer than your current domain is using.
  • It has always been a good idea to use a dedicated Revit server but getting that budget approved if it isn't already set up this way may be another hurdle.
  • Spontaneously deciding to put a project at a specific office because the majority of the staff is in that office might contradict the single Revit Server location chosen. For example a project using teams in Phoenix and Tuscon might not enjoy the best results if the Revit Server is located in the Dallas office. It is technically possible to provide a Revit Server in multiple locations but each is blind to the other and teams can only access one at a time. The simplest implementation at this time is to focus on a single location to use Revit Server and this location provides access for all other offices.
  • Worksharing monitor will be replaced with a Autodesk Bluestreak based solution that requires users to join this additional Autodesk technology and that might be a deterrent.


I encourage you to read both David's post and Robert's post as they have been using this tool for awhile now. They both offer worthy insight that should help you decide how well it will meet your needs. Keep in mind that this, like many other developments, are a stepping stone toward further developments in worksharing.

Added: Lachmi Khemlani's AECBytes has a new article based on an interview with Autodesk and Robert Manna. You can read it HERE. The article also discusses the new Conceptual Energy Analysis tool.

[Added March 30, 2011] Jame Wong has a couple videos on his blog to guide you along with installing and setting up Revit Server.

Monday, September 27, 2010

Blogger Day - Feature Focus 1 - Revit Server

Quick Overview of Revit Server:

It is a software solution that takes advantage of server technology (hopefully existing in your firm)
  • Uses a Central Project server and Local Project Servers
  • User experience is simple - select a project file from a Revit Server list of projects
  • Performance - data borrowing speed goal is 100ms or less
  • SWC Process
  • #1 Reload latest is from Local Server if data has been prefetched from thetrnal server
  • # Model Update - This is a function of Revit on the local machine. Revit Server project will not affect this.
  • #3 Save - Data needs to migrate to the central project server
There can only be ONE central server (technically possible to create multiple but teams are limited to one at a time) This means it is WAN/Domain exclusive or in other words, limited to inside the firewall, all teams must share the same domain. Daily users provide the Central server name or IP address to connect

Technical Requirements:
  • One Server per location (exception as mentioned earlier about one server)
  • Windows Server 2008 (64 bit OS)
  • Internet Information Server 7.0
  • Web Services
  • Silverlight plug-in for revit Server Administrator
  • Minor configuration changes (~ 5 IIS settings)
  • Prefer a project server that doesn't have office email exchange server and other web heavy applications
Limitations:
  • End users cannot delete, rename or move central and folders on Revit central servers using revit client, but they can do that using Revit Server Administrator
  • Disabled features: Editing requests and Rollback
  • No longer possible to work at risk
  • Worksharing monitor does not function with Revit server but will be replaced by a Bluestreak add-in monitoring worksharing activity
Revit Server Administrator: (highlights)
  • Any user can type the server name in browser window (access controlled by IT permissions)
  • Based on Microsoft Silverlight tech. Must install plug-in
  • Create, delete, rename and move folders and cntral models on central server
  • lock/unlock central models for backup and restoration
  • View submission history for any model

Robert Manna with Burt Hill has been working with this technology quietly behind the scenes. He shared a nice graphic relationship diagram on his post a few minutes ago.

He disclosed that he's doing a AU Virtual class on this subject, you'll want to check it out!
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I can also finally admit that my AUv course "Virtually" There: Using Revit with Geographically Dispersed Teams: AB22-1R" is intended to primarily focus on Revit Server, implementing it, and our experience using it on a real project team involving multiple offices and an external consultant.
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