tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post5479441145707066810..comments2024-03-28T23:36:43.496-07:00Comments on Revit OpEd: How Many Worksets Do I Need?Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14230364057800484763noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post-74091696176282589382012-10-19T09:31:05.924-07:002012-10-19T09:31:05.924-07:00Steve,
First, a little background. My ofice is mu...Steve,<br /><br />First, a little background. My ofice is multi-disciplined where we all work in a single revit model. One question that is currently making the rounds deals with eliminating disciplined named worksets in favor of filters and view templates to control visibility. Also, it was stated that "element borrowing" in a single workset with many users should suffice. Red flags went up when I first heard this. Discipline defined worksets, I feel, helps users to clearly define which elements they should place and more importantly which elements they can edit. For instance, a beam on a structural workset should not be edited by an architect, etc. And what can be easier to control visibility in your views than hiding an entire workset? <br /><br />Mark<br />(one of your 2006 graduates)MXMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16254532509023961491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post-45494992697282466032012-04-19T14:00:33.785-07:002012-04-19T14:00:33.785-07:00Mr. S.:
Well, I've never used that feature, s...Mr. S.:<br /><br />Well, I've never used that feature, so thanks for the tip.<br /><br />However, it doesn't 'grey' so much as 'halftone', really, which could be helpful to someone, I guess. A more useful function would be that halftone visibility control, along with a 'lock' ability, which would prevent folks from inadvertantly selecting elements of other worksets. It would also help with reducing the placement of components on the worng workset, which would also be nice.<br /><br />With those attributes, it would become the same (very useful) thing that 'lock layer' is in Autocad, post-2008. Therefore, it will never happen, unfortunately.plawtonhttp://www.aeieng.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post-20309152496667425832012-04-19T13:47:17.634-07:002012-04-19T13:47:17.634-07:00The Gray Inactive Worksets feature has the spirit ...The Gray Inactive Worksets feature has the spirit of what you mention in mind...to make it more obvious that you are working on a specific workset.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14230364057800484763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post-15408712353009686772012-04-19T06:21:08.047-07:002012-04-19T06:21:08.047-07:00Good info, thanks for the discussion.
As an MEP s...Good info, thanks for the discussion.<br /><br />As an MEP shop, we find that we can minimize the need for worksets by breaking mid-sized and larger projects (< 25k SF) into separate central files for each discipline (M, E, and P), then link in other disciplines as necessary for coordination.<br /><br />A separate thought occurred when RMEP 2011 was still young: I can see where it would be nice to have an 'isolate workset' button, along with an 'unisolate workset' button, of course. I know this would violate autodesk's TINA policy (This Is Not Autocad), because that program already has the Isolate/Unisolate Layer function, but this functionality has grown essential in the design process for a good reason: we need it.<br /><br />Thanks againPLawtonhttp://www.aeieng.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post-8835441440815638362012-04-18T18:14:35.987-07:002012-04-18T18:14:35.987-07:00The larger the team, the larger the project the le...The larger the team, the larger the project the less likely that will work...but yes to some degree element borrowing can let you ignore the worksets.<br /><br />There is a bit more interruption and transaction time lost for each borrowing sequence. Selecting multiple elements and making them editable first can get permission once, more efficiently and have fewer transactions with central.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14230364057800484763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post-29138818257319139902012-04-18T17:58:08.964-07:002012-04-18T17:58:08.964-07:00It seems more and more are moving away from Workse...It seems more and more are moving away from Worksets altogether in favor of element borrowing...are you seeing that trend?ShawnFhttp://www.twitter.com/kcflatlandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post-43614778297655492342012-04-18T12:24:19.168-07:002012-04-18T12:24:19.168-07:00I resist that tendency but I've been involved...I resist that tendency but I've been involved with projects where it was the logical thing to do. I look for building design separation and programmatic cues to help decide where to assign worksets. Also who is responsible for things..<br /><br />My priorities are: Performance, Workflow and then possible compelling visibility benefits. Not just visibility in Visibility Graphics sense, but opening and closing worksets, which may enhance performance and/or workflow.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14230364057800484763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post-89904284214896524062012-04-18T12:02:52.963-07:002012-04-18T12:02:52.963-07:00Steve,
What's your opinion on Worksets by lev...Steve, <br />What's your opinion on Worksets by level? I have had issues in the past organizing everything given that a lot of architectural elements span multiple floors.Brian Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14589548447970317029noreply@blogger.com