tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post5655832089490332522..comments2024-03-26T21:47:32.774-07:00Comments on Revit OpEd: My Kingdom for a Dimension...or Two...ThreeStevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14230364057800484763noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post-91825955870395797692017-10-15T17:33:26.226-07:002017-10-15T17:33:26.226-07:00Hi Steve,
While I understand your frustration (I&...Hi Steve,<br /><br />While I understand your frustration (I've modeled many an existing structure myself), the "my documents stand on their own" philosophy is simply not real life. At least, not in my experience in the structural discipline. I would simply NEVER dimension something that is the architects responsibility to lay out unless the dimension is structurally necessary. Legally speaking, a dimension on the structural docs overrides anything on the architectural set so every dimension I snap gets me more liability. Obviously, a certain amount of that liability I signed up for and will gladly accept but there is typically no sense in taking on more than I signed up for. Also, where I currently work each discipline has a horrible habit of designing in isolation. Forcing them to look to other disciplines for what they were each meant to provide in the first place has been a very good thing.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, I have encountered the problems you mentioned (disagreeing details, overridden dims, dims to illogical things) so I feel your pain. But at a minimum someone should need the arch and struct set in order to model (or build) a building, even just to get the structural elements in place.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Matthewmgonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17564530945303771533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post-9897338104669833352017-10-08T15:43:20.763-07:002017-10-08T15:43:20.763-07:00Great post. Thank you for sharing. There will alwa...Great post. Thank you for sharing. There will always be issues of what Revit can do quickly versus what you should do; getting team-mates to think about the consequences of their actions: for the documentation, the model, and for the physical building; constructability and timing; single place or multiple documentation annotations. I look forward to the day we can issue the model, period.AnthonyBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17066705482789197040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post-74817659967689453012017-09-19T16:44:39.707-07:002017-09-19T16:44:39.707-07:00Thanks Steve,
As always I enjoy your expressions!...Thanks Steve, <br />As always I enjoy your expressions!<br />So true...I am working with a new drafter...my montra is..."how are they gonna build it if you don't tell them...(fill in the blank). Dimensioning fits right to the discussion.<br />I think for those of us from the way back drafting-on-the-board days, we grew organically. After all you needed to actually look at a scale as you worked.<br />But for the newbie's with lots of computer playtime...I've noticed a bit of a disconnect from thinking things through start to finish. It's so much more fun just to build a model.Leslie Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post-68588089888704501602017-09-18T23:23:48.091-07:002017-09-18T23:23:48.091-07:00Thanks Andy, me too!Thanks Andy, me too!Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14230364057800484763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9240097.post-9426222131358379812017-09-18T21:51:04.177-07:002017-09-18T21:51:04.177-07:00Hi Steve
I enjoyed this post. Rang a lot of bell...Hi Steve<br /><br />I enjoyed this post. Rang a lot of bells for me, things that concerned my when I used to lay out drawings using pencil and paper. What dimensions does the builder really need? How can I make this drawing easier to read? What is the purpose of this particular view?<br /><br />One of the reasons I have continued to be an architect working on live projects rather than a full time BIM specialist is the need to stay in touch with those kinds of issues. <br /><br />Anyway, I miss you buddy, hope our paths will cross again before too long.<br /><br />AndyAndy Milburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03292205727891265423noreply@blogger.com